After the sucess of the seminar my good friend Peter Farrell asked his group if they would like to practise Sun Style on a regular basis, they said yes and so every month I taught them and corrected the form. Peter had been travelling with me to visit Dave Martin and had been made an instructor by him so we were on equal footing though Pete always reffered to me as his teacher he was and is my brother. We established the group and in 2005 I got the opportunity to travel to Beijing and meet my teacher for the next part of the journey Lei Shi Tai. Lei Laoshi was very good at all aspects of Sun Style his grandfather had been a disciple of Sun Lu Tang I was honoured to be his student, on my return I shared everything with Pete and we now had students who were able to teach and so I started an instructors class the guys who were the main stalwarts of the group were, Peter Farrell, Martin Brady, Dave Pollard, Dave and Stewart Polshaw, Jane Jackson, Anne Marie Parker, Paul Banks , Ian Platt, Stewart Mann and Kevin Garnett.
In 2006 Lei Laoshi came to visit his daughter in France I travelled there to train with him for two weeks, then in 2007 he came to the UK to visit Dave and Siu Ying Martin and we hosted him for a weekend seminar, in October 2007 I travelled to Barcelona to meet Joan Hernandez Serret and established a group, with him leading and arranging for me to come to teach on a regular basis. In 2008 I once again travelled to Beijing and got corrections on my form and Xing Yi and learned the 12 animals of Xing Yi, on my return I shared everything I had learned with Pete. We now had groups in Salford, Blackpool, Liverpool and Barcelona it was working well but as always not everything in the garden is rosy.